The Move Abroad Coach Podcast

#164 Should You Stay or Go? This Family Created a Workbook to Help You Decide

• Episode 164

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What does it look like for a queer couple (with 2 kids and 3 pets) to move from Massachusetts to the Netherlands? What does it take to move abroad as a family in general? 

Grover and Nova are offering an honest look at the decision-making process and the reality of starting over.

In this episode, we discuss:

  • Life as a queer family in the Netherlands
  • How their quality of life has changed after moving
  • What drove them towards leaving the U.S.
  • Why they chose the Netherlands (and why not Amsterdam)
  • Their Stay or Go Workbook (and how to decide if leaving the U.S. is right for you)
  • Cost of living: rent, healthcare, and taxes
  • Finding housing as immigrants with pets
  • The DAFT visa and building a business abroad
  • Settling in: the stressful first weeks vs. long-term rewards

Starting over (or even choosing to do so) can be a process, and this is how that process led Grover and Nova to their dreamy new life in the Netherlands.


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Links & Resources:
→ Grover & Nova’s Workbook 

→ DAFT Resource

→ Risk benefit Toolkit

→ Nova’s Instagram 

→ Grover’s Instagram

→ My Freebie

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